At Canadaland, we really didn’t expect to find ourselves writing about the WE organization again. But then it became part of the biggest politics story in the country, and we obtained a recording of a strange conversation between one of its founders and a person who was then a senior employee in the group’s Kenyan operations.

Jesse sits down with our managing editor, Andréa Schmidt, to discuss what we learned — and how, while we were investigating WE, one of its lawyers had commissioned his own investigation of us.

You can read WE’s responses in full here:

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