“The revelation in Thursday’s New York Times that comedian Louis CK acted sexually inappropriate with women comedians was not a revelation to us here at Jezebel,” wrote Jezebel senior writer Madeleine Davies and reporter Anna Merlan.

Their sibling site Gawker ran a blind item about Louis CK masturbating in front of female comedians in 2012, then went on to name him in subsequent coverage. Merlan and Davies have since taken on investigating and writing about CK. They wrote a piece for Jezebel called “On Rumors” about the difficulties and criticism they faced in that process.

They join Jesse to talk about the line between rumour and news, and whether standards have changed around reporting on sexual assault and harassment in the post-Weinstein world.